1990 Subaru Loyale Wagon Install!

eulogious · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: 1990 Subaru Loyale Wagon Install!

Ya, that's right, I am going to install a stereo into my bombass subaru! Well, I am going to start to install it, after I fix my amp. I was running stuff through my head tyring to figure out the best place to but my amp(s), but not take up any valuable space at the same time. I bought a wagon because I was tired of driving a 2 door sports car around, so I want the space! The thing that I came up with is mounting the amp(s) in the small compartment right by the rear hatch, under the rear cargo area carpet.

The dimensions of the compartment are: 37.5"L 11.25"W and then the depth is a little funky: from the left going right it's 3.25" Deep for 12" and then the rest of it is 4.5" Deep. My amp(s) (tantrum 600.4) dimensions are 14.25"L 10"W 2.35"H, so it fits no problem. The other amp I was considering is the rsd1200.1 for my sub that I get eventually. And that's a pretty big amp for sure. It's dimensions are 19.25"l 11 3/16"W 2 3/8"H so it would fit, but it would be super tight. Well nothing that a big fucking hammer can't fix Laughing

Then there's the issue of cooling/airflow, so I figured that I would remove the metal door that's on the compartment now, cut back the carpet, and then replace the door with acrylic. Then mount 3 120mm fans (2 blowing out on the sides, 1 blowing in in the middle) into the acrylic for air flow and cooling. Is this enough? Too much?

I am planning on running 0 gauge to the back, and then have a distro block for the amps. That way I am ready for any type of amp I want to get Twisted Evil

I guess my question is this, is it a good idea to mount the amps there?

I really don't see any downsides to it. That way the only thing that would be in the cargo area is the one sub, which would be easy to move if I needed the space. I would also place some plywood down on the bottom of the compartment that the amps would sit on as well. Then I could run wires under the plywood so it wouldn't look messy Smile

I guess I am kinda afraid of cooling with both the amps and the tight space. I know my tantrum got HOT, but that was also behind my sheep skin (yes they are real) seat covers with hardly any room between the amp and the back of the seat, so having a fan blowing on it would be more than it got for the last 4 years of it's life Laughing

The compartment is sealed from the outside as well, so nothing will get wet. My RCA's my not reach, but I will probably install a line driver if I get a big amp, so I will buy one so I can use that to "extend" my RCA's if they don't reach and not have signal loss.

Is there anything that I might be missing that's critical?

I will take some pics when I get home in the morning (I am at work now) so you can see the compartment and get a feel for what I am talking about.

Thanks all!

stipud · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:00 am Post subject:

Gotta love the early 90's Scoob wagons! Those things are built like tanks!

I believe Me262 has his Ti amps installed the exact same way in one of his Scoob's, and it is fine. I dont think he has any additional cooling either, but of course the Ti amps have built in fans. I would say with a fan or two for airflow the Tantrum should do fine as well.

You might want to send him a PM because I am not sure if he will see this thread.

eulogious · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:10 am Post subject:

I love my wagon! It's getting a 2" lift with 27" M/T's and a roof rack as well real soon! I have also added paddle shifters for it as well. I love my soobie!

I will PM him for sure. I would love to see how he has them installed! Thanks for the tip!

Pedi · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:54 am Post subject:

My father in law has one of theese...

In Norway, these cars are us much appreciated as the Chrysler/Dodge Voyager in USA.... Rolling Eyes

But I am really looking forward to see this install. Let the pics roll...

eulogious · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:38 am Post subject:

Here are some pics:

Here's the compartment I am talking about:

Here's why it's deeper on side than the other...

So this looks like where I will have to drill to get access for my power wire. I think that the bumper doesn't come all the way back, so it should be easy to install some grommets to get the wire through safely...

Same deal with the other side, just it will be the RCA's instead of power.

Here's my HU, and old one but a gooder Smile

I think that I am going to use some MDF and create a custom surround for it, I have just been lazy. But thanks to the phorum, making it should be easy!

So I just found out that I have basically blown both sets of speakers I thought worked, so I am going to get some new ones here eventually Evil or Very Mad

Hopefully sooner rather than later. So I was looking at getting the Rsd 6.5cs'. They look like good speakers for cheap Smile

Anyway I go it's going to be components. So I am going to mount the tweeters here, and use the tutorial to found on the phorum to make a nice fiberglass thing around it, and make it look all fancy. It should be a fun project...

Here's my "sail panel":

The Speaker:

The cs' are a litte deep than my others, so I will have to probably mount them on the outside of the grill. Should be "simple" Laughing

The other door:

Here's just some pics of my roo Smile

I love my roo! I can't wait till I get my rack and bigger tires on it for sure! It will make it look so much better Smile

So that's my plan. Here it is boiled down. I think that I am going to go Phoenix Gold gear all the way. Except for the HU of course Smile

Let me know what you all think!

1. Install my Tantrum 600.4 once I get it working.
2. Make a new surround for my HU.
3. Buy new front speakers, then make sail panels for the tweets.
4. Buy new 6x9 for the rears (thinking rsd here as well)
5. Buy a new class D amp (rsd1000.1, or maybe old skool PG stuff, or route 66 Twisted Evil

)
6. Buy a 12 RSDC and build a nice box for it.
7. Upgrade alt to a 90amp maxima one, the piss ass 55amper in there now can suck my balls. It might just kill it with my Tantrum Rolling Eyes

8. Upgrade wiring in car to handle new alt and amps
9. Add a cap just for shits and giggles.
10. Enjoy my new stereo in my old skool roo!

Granted all this is going to take some time. I am BROKE right now, so I am just doing what I can with the very little money I have. Come November after my wedding and all that crap, I wil be able to spend some money on myself, so we shall see what happens then Twisted Evil

P.S. If any Phoenix Gold marketing guys read this, if you are looking for a new car to show off all your new gear, check mine out! It's primed and waiting for some new gear, and I will even drive to you! Laughing

I gotta at least try Wink

ttocs · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject:

I think I counted 5-6 grommets inside of that little area you were talking about drilling for power wire and then adding grommets. Why not use the factory ones?

gridracer · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject:

Yep lots of grommets in there already why make new holes just use the factory grommets that aren't being used anyway by the looks of it.

NewOldStock · Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Last Visit: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 563

grommets

oldschoolfan · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject:

I know this is not the exact model but it sure reminds me of Jackie Chan in Cannonball Run.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject:

ttocs · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject:

kojac with kodak...... Laughing

Might have to catch that on netflix tonight.

eulogious · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject:

eulogious · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject:

stipud · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:19 am Post subject:

In a lot of my installs I run the power wire along the frame to the back of the car, then have it come up into the trunk through a grommet. See if you have enough spare room around the fuel tank grommet for that. Sure as hell beats running 0 gauge through the interior!

eulogious · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:25 am Post subject:

ttocs · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:51 am Post subject:

make sure if you do this, to ensure that the wire is at NO TIME below the frame where it could get pinched between the frame and the ground but I would go tha route as well. Use alot of wire ties to make sure it will not move and you will be fine.

NewOldStock · Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Last Visit: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 563

Stryker · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject:

Around November? You mean you can't do any of it now?
Not too be a wanker Whistle

We all like to dream about the things we want. Why start an install thread when there is no installing going on? just curious..... Eh?

gridracer · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject:

Hopefully you get it done during the summer I always hated installing stereos late in the year for me or customers.
1. Summers over you can't hardly enoy the stereo at least I don't drive as much in the winter.
2. Cars are usually dirty and wet if its around that time of year and leave a mess in the shop to clean.
3. If you don't have a shop to work in installing a stereo in the cold driveway sucks. bigtime and you will un-motivated real quick.

eulogious · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject:

Misfire · Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:39 am Post subject:

eulogious · Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject:

Progress! And answers to my own questions Smile

I have been busy acquiring parts for the install, and still been able to do it for cheap! Very Happy

Here's everything:

Here's my 8" Solobaric that I decided to use out of my MR2 and my cap with a digital volt meter. I figured I might as well get some bumps now since I have a sub and an amp Smile

Here's my 17' RCA's, 40' of 16awg speaker wire, 17' of 0awg for the power, some 4awg to run to my amps, some connectors for 0awg wire, and 20awg remote turn on wire.

Here's some wire loom, and my LPL for my amp to control the bass remotely.

Here's my power distribution stuff for my amps and some fuses as well as the grommets...

My plan is to run my amp in the following config:

Front speakers run off the front channel on the amp under a 4 ohm load (75 watts rms x2) and then bridge the rear channel to run my sub on a 2 ohm load (300 watts RMS x1) and then run the rear speakers off the deck power for now. That will give me plenty of power up front to power the mids and the highs, and then the sub will have plenty of noise to be able to hear it as well. This is basically the same setup I had in the MR2 before I blew the amp, and then gutted it for it's wires.

Then I got all the wires I needed into the wire loom for easier installation.

I have 5 wires in the wire loom now. My RCA's, 2 20' runs of 16awg speaker wire, my LPL cable, and remote power turn on. I am glad I got the 5/8" wire loom instead of the next size smaller! This will make it much easier to run the wires and keep them organized.

Now the answers to my question of wether I can drill through there and if my RCA's would reach...

If you couldn't tell, you can drill through there no problem and my RCA's reached!

More pics!

I haven't run the power wire yet, but I wanted to make sure it worked with the grommets so I took some pics...

Here's what the amp looks like sitting in there kinda hooked up, to get an idea of what it's going to look like Smile

So ya lots of progress. I got the wood I need to put down as well, so if all goes well I might just have a working amp tomorrow! After I install the power wire I will see where I am at and see if I have time to hook up the amp. That should be fun! In order to run the power wire I am going to remove the fender, good times!

ttocs · Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject:

what kind of rca's?

Damo95 · Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject:

The idea of running all your wiring thru the loom tubing is a good one..

i like it... might adopt that in my car...

coming along nicely there!!

stipud · Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject:

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